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suggestion
Turf system improvements
by Tony_Street•May 30, 2026 at 9:08 PM•
Suggestion:
- NO HP for turfs
- 1-2 turf capture limit at a time
- After X alliance has started 1-2 turfs alliance Y cannot counter take because this will end up in neither side having gun fights = no fun
- both alliances have score that goes up based on players inside turf for X amount of time + kills with kills providing more score than X amount of time in my opinion
- Whichever has the most score when the timer hits 0 wins the turf
- Timer for turf scaled based on total alliance numbers so that if alliance X is 50 and alliance Y is 10 obviously we need a short timer because there will be almost no gun fight
Bonus: If this was implemented perhaps a live score count for each alliance at the turf be displayed (Toggable), with kills/damage or not - not a necessity like the changes needed above.
Who benefits:
The current system that was just implemented does not seem to be working, it is incomplete, not fun and exploitable.
Who is hurt:
No.
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Comments (45)
The system came out less than 3 hours before you wrote this suggestion. Obviously, there's only so much we can do with a small testing team, and we'll be monitoring and tweaking the system the coming days to make sure it's balanced and fun for both sides.
Even with the latest update its still not quite there, the RK component is really fun. However, there are 10 turfs being started around the map and the attackers are rotating around them each death. There was just a turf now where we were defending it OVERWHEMINGLY 300/300 HP for minutes but its still not over and the enemies have decided to go start a new one since they cannot win this current one but we still have to sit in these boundaries for a few minutes to stop them from bringing 1-2 rats to hide in the initial one if we go to the newer one but if we stay in the initial one we cannot make it to the new one to defend - not even close. This is why I think it should be based on score and there should be a limit of 2 turf caps at a time, with the requirement of them sitting beside eachother.
Also if we're staying with the new system perhaps a little decrease on gun prices is necessary?
edit: I also forgot to mention there was a turf that PD started, I was on my NRG at dilimore and began my journey to the turf IMMEDIATELY upon them starting it. I was not able to make it to the turf before they had captured it, nobody made it...
V10.0.3
We appreciate the quick response and changes made so far. I'd just like to reiterate that defending is almost impossible, we just spent 15 minutes defending a turf, overwhelmingly winning and we did ultimately win but it took 15 minutes of almost straight 300/300 HP for 35 fpoints as opposed to the attackers getting 55 when they win which is significantly easier - not only because of the current system but also because attackers are typically at the advantage in numbers. I can say that it is much better already. Thanks.
Should either make the timer lower or some way to win earlier and maybe switch taking fpoint gain and defending gain (55 fps on defending and 35 on taking) since its harder to defend
https://youtu.be/GnvtF7MdbBk
Of course, I mentioned this on Discord but forgot to follow up here. The overall idea is great, but because the entire system was changed, it requires thorough testing by a larger player base. A small group isn't enough to catch everything. We've submitted some feedback on a few adjustments needed to improve the balance and overall fun.
I do agree with the said
Respect Mr. Street.
well said tony stret
Good point, Limit 1-2 turfs so the gunfight are more focused in certain areas rather than everywhere around the map.
goated suggestion
i agree on this 100% agreed
i went to defend turf started 1 min ago and it was already taken over? really? i saw more than 5 turfs being taken by enemy and i can't find anyone in those turfs...
good
+1 Current system is just broken and feels like a waste of time even playing
Changes are great but needs balance.
Added to that the rules after this turfs changes should be updated
yeppp i agree
Well said
I agree
this
yes
Good
I'm upvoting this because this new turf system is faulty
Supporting this shit
good
Yep u should replace the HP system with the kills one (score) to make it more fun and competitive +1 btw
+1 supporting this
+1
Remove this update totally.
Or make even more cd on turfs, the server is a tdm right now
Anything is welcome the new shit turf is making the server look more like a dm server fights are everywhere today i cldnt make a single regroup like its ww3 in server no fun, loosing money constantly because of RK change it asap
We have pb for that lol.
u stupid
True, perfect suggestion you support just the PB playstyle.
The new turf system is favoured by almost the entire server outside of the fact it is almost impossible to defend, I have advocated for changes that can make it more balanced as it is currently impossible to defend a turf as opposed to attacking and it seems it will have to be complicated on a HP based system.
It is not favoured by almost the entire server except DMers and no lifers.
Right... I forgot people want to come back from work to spend 2 hours of their evening sitting in the back of a car doing nothing at a regroup for 15 minutes to hit up a turf, die immediately and do it again. Oh wait... they don't 🤡 You clearly don't realise how many people go play other games during their evenings because the old turf system was so boring and people are actually looking to have some fun, why do you think everyone just spams their faction discord chats with "when are we getting a war" and people who are super inactive come back for them etc? Why do you think global war has significantly higher activity?
Yes, stop being dramatic, and in you4 scenario where is the all old players now with that system? I have noticed that even less we are right now. None left because of the turf system expect some dmers. All the old players used to play with different way the game and things changed that's why most of them left on they grew up and no more time to play it. None left foe the turf system lol. You are giving an example of global war as activity peak, while the server turn into tdm for 7 days.Turn this server to Dm so we have activity. But you tell me, how about the quality of the Players gonna increase? With tdm server? Roleplay historical bringing players with brain. Now the 60% of the server are pure dmers. That's another reason the old players left. So, stop yapping around bullshits and respect the different opinion. I can see your viewpoint but I disagree, it's okay. Nothing will change, woet wants to increase the playerbase, bring more dmers in the server alright good, understood. (+ they are spamming about the war, because they are dmers, If you remember back then factions was not warring every 2 months, if you remember faction was building with corr family and members not with faction hoopers, who if you don't war they leave you, but I am sure I am talking with a guy who is playing 2 years max and yapping and talking for old players)
Perhaps the reason I disrespected your opinion is because of the fact you stated that people who enjoy it are no lifers 🤣 "Roleplay historically brought players with a brain" in a time where SAMP wasn't plagued by the third world, do you think people even know how to roleplay on this server? I can remember the "old" players that were bosses of the biggest factions that you are referring to in HOI meetings years ago and they could barely even string a sentence together mate. This server has never been about heavy roleplay, at least not from 2018 onwards that's for sure.
Edit: Additionally, I've seen your input on other threads and it seems you are just a troll.
Edit 2: Cannot even believe I am going out of my way to defend my point but you think the old players stopped playing because of these changes (that occurred about a week ago) rather than the fact they are pushing 30 and moving on with more important things, the server hasn't changed much outside of the decreased illegals quality/stability
Anyway as you think, can't even talk with 2 old years player about the server and about what server was.
If you scroll up you will see what I have said.
I initially played this server in 2018 and although I stopped playing until 2021/2022, friends (Kenji and Lrizz) stayed and became quite prominent figures in your community. I am sure they wouldn't be arguing in your favour. The reason you cannot talk with a "2 years old player" is because you have no point, you are wrong.
I still cannot believe you think this server is built off the back of heavy roleplay and that is what people want 🤣 This is a glorified TDM server, you have coloured names to indicate your team, turfs around the entire map (90% of the gameplay) and a kill list on the right hand side. Please do not lecture me about roleplay you probably don't even know how to differentiate between /me and /do
Okay you right
Thank you, I'll give you real reasons as to why older players quit as a gift for your kindness:
No bro they quitted cause turf system.Anyway that's all from my, my point of view. Thank you!!!
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